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there is pressure on biden to deliver after president obama's poor performance last week. also, this is a campaign where president obama is running as much against paul ryan's ideas as he is against mitt romney. that elevates ryan as well. >> it seems clear in choosing chris van holland they will go against the first ryan budget, the first medicare plan and also the ryan book. they will go after the budget cuts and troo to tag mitt romney with the severity, using the term relatively, of the ryan budget cuts. >> right. rom uh any down played the ryan road map. keep in mind the first ryan budget plan included privatizing social security, at least to a certain extent. that's something ryan then dropped in his subsequent budgets. it was there and he was one of the advocates of the plan to put it in the market. secondly the medicare issue. those entitlements, we'll ha from biden about thursday. a lot of democrats think he dropped the ball not pushing the issues against mitt romney. joe biden will read ryan's book and go after those entitlements. >> up next, as mitt romney focus
there is pressure on biden to deliver after president obama's poor performance last week. also, this is a campaign where president obama is running as much against paul ryan's ideas as he is against mitt romney. that elevates ryan as well. >> it seems clear in choosing chris van holland they will go against the first ryan budget, the first medicare plan and also the ryan book. they will go after the budget cuts and troo to tag mitt romney with the severity, using the term relatively, of...
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he can't get to the fourth quarter -- >> we'll see what obama shows up in two weeks. >> who will win this thursday? joe biden has got to win, because the tie goes i think to the other guy. >> i think it's a tie. >> i think biden will win. i think he's a terrific debater. i think a lot of people underestimate him. >> not you, not me. thank you both. >>> coming up, unmasking the so-called mitt. he pulled a classic et asketch last week. when is president obama going to stop talking about big bird and go after the big stuff and the other guy? >>> also the war in the west, senate races in north dakota, montana, nevada and arizona, they're all toss-ups. tonight a democrat making a, richard carmona is here. >>> and jon stewart takes on the jobbers, the right-leaning conspiracy theorists who say the unemployment numbers were sent in from obama headquarters in chicago. >> it's a [ bleep ] recipe. it's like the radish stew of jobless numbers. >>> finally let me finish with the real differences between these two candidates. this is "hardball," the place for politics. [ fishing rod casting line,
he can't get to the fourth quarter -- >> we'll see what obama shows up in two weeks. >> who will win this thursday? joe biden has got to win, because the tie goes i think to the other guy. >> i think it's a tie. >> i think biden will win. i think he's a terrific debater. i think a lot of people underestimate him. >> not you, not me. thank you both. >>> coming up, unmasking the so-called mitt. he pulled a classic et asketch last week. when is president...
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earlier in the week, the pennsylvania judge ruling that voter i.d. rules, they can't be imment impleme implemented. how does that affect another key state? >> people were worried the pennsylvania voter i.d. law could make the pennsylvania contest a little closer than the polls subject. right now president obama in most polls in the keystone state is up in high double digits. this could disproportion knitly affect minorities and others seen to be democratic voters, could end up hurting them, but this ruling that the pennsylvania voter i.d. law essentially will not be the law for 2012 pretty much eliminates a lot of democratic worries that that law could end up making the race closer than it currently appears in the polls. >> i want to know if you see a big difference in 24 hours, because with the debate fallout, may be blunted by the job numbers. people were talking about thursday morning, then friday morning, and getting an early indication of how the debate may have played out in the swing states? >> we're still looking for good polls. right now it'
earlier in the week, the pennsylvania judge ruling that voter i.d. rules, they can't be imment impleme implemented. how does that affect another key state? >> people were worried the pennsylvania voter i.d. law could make the pennsylvania contest a little closer than the polls subject. right now president obama in most polls in the keystone state is up in high double digits. this could disproportion knitly affect minorities and others seen to be democratic voters, could end up hurting...
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four weeks to sell the country on the difference between obama and romney on the big issues of our times. time to attack. time to remind voters who rode to the rescue -- who did ride to the rescue of the american auto industry and who stood out there telling it to go bankrupt. time to attack. which candidate fought to get equal pay for equal work for women so no girl in america will ever grow up thinking her time, her sweat is worth less than a boy's? time to attack. which candidate saw 40 million people uninsured americans dragging themselves to sit for hours in emergency rooms across the country? he saw it, obama did, and refused to let it stay that way through yet another presidency. mitt romney saw the way things were and said he wants to keep things that way. if you don't have shoorns, tough. go get a seat with the other victims and moochers. well, this is where romney's vulnerable, where obama can come charging from his ground of strength. now is the time. romney taken to task for his positions so far from the american mainstream. i'm joined by democrat strategist bob shrum and for
four weeks to sell the country on the difference between obama and romney on the big issues of our times. time to attack. time to remind voters who rode to the rescue -- who did ride to the rescue of the american auto industry and who stood out there telling it to go bankrupt. time to attack. which candidate fought to get equal pay for equal work for women so no girl in america will ever grow up thinking her time, her sweat is worth less than a boy's? time to attack. which candidate saw 40...
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last week, the obama administration announced it favored canceling a 16-year-old $3.5 billion tomato trade deal with mexico. the deal encourages imports and has kept tomato prices low. but florida growers say they're so low they can't catch up. the numbers show mexican tomato sales have quadruple since 2000 while florida has seen its cut shrink dramatically. after a flurry of letters from lawmakers, the commerce department decided to repd the trade agreement be scrapped. mexico growers were stunned, upset they hadn't been granted a meeting until after the decision. why did the decision get rushed? presidential politic, the influence of those florida growers might have played just a small role. michael isakoff is nbc's national investigative correspondent. it's an election year and hearing about issues like this, oh, favoritism of this front for florida. favoritism on that front for ohio. it shouldn't come as a shock and yet, we see it play out every year. four years, excuse me. >> this is a fascinating look about how to use the levers of power of incumbency to help yourself in an ele
last week, the obama administration announced it favored canceling a 16-year-old $3.5 billion tomato trade deal with mexico. the deal encourages imports and has kept tomato prices low. but florida growers say they're so low they can't catch up. the numbers show mexican tomato sales have quadruple since 2000 while florida has seen its cut shrink dramatically. after a flurry of letters from lawmakers, the commerce department decided to repd the trade agreement be scrapped. mexico growers were...
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who is this guy, can you trust him, and which mitt romney are we going to be seeing tomorrow, next week, next month, that sort of thing. >> congresswoman, i heard a commentator say earlier that he's a man that comes out of a private sector and he's used to saying whatever it takes to close the deal. well, that may work in business but will that work with voters if they feel you are not authentic, no core beliefs in anything, can they close the deal with someone that they don't believe really believes anything? >> well, this lack of core belief is certainly an issue but the worse in politics, reverend, is lack of respect. when you disrespect people and that's what we saw in that authentic moment of mitt romney when he was talking to all his rich friends, that he has content, disrespect for people, anybody who has any -- relies on government in any way, medicare, social security, veterans benefits, we're talking about active military. the disrespect that he showed is something that i think all voters ought to take with them to the voting booth. >> michelle, quickly, let me ask you -- i st
who is this guy, can you trust him, and which mitt romney are we going to be seeing tomorrow, next week, next month, that sort of thing. >> congresswoman, i heard a commentator say earlier that he's a man that comes out of a private sector and he's used to saying whatever it takes to close the deal. well, that may work in business but will that work with voters if they feel you are not authentic, no core beliefs in anything, can they close the deal with someone that they don't believe...
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four weeks ago obama led among likely voters by eight. now to the latest gallup tracking poll which covers the last seven days. gallup has president obama back in the lead at 50 to 45. what a difference from the other poll. that's exactly where the race stood before the debate. romney had surged in the tracking poll. the two candidates were actually tied in the three days immediately after the debate, but the president seems to have wiped out romney's gains in the gallup poll. joining me right now are howard fineman, editorial director of the "huffington post," and the honorable michael nutter, mayor of philadelphia and presidential surrogate in this tough campaign. gentlemen, thank you for joining us. always go to the elected official first. mr. mayor, what needs to be done right now to right this ship, to get obama back on a winning course? >> well, the president is on a winning course and as you laid out earlier, chris, with all the things that mitt romney either lied about or denied about -- what we call that in philadelphia is just l
four weeks ago obama led among likely voters by eight. now to the latest gallup tracking poll which covers the last seven days. gallup has president obama back in the lead at 50 to 45. what a difference from the other poll. that's exactly where the race stood before the debate. romney had surged in the tracking poll. the two candidates were actually tied in the three days immediately after the debate, but the president seems to have wiped out romney's gains in the gallup poll. joining me right...
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either couldn't or wouldn't do last week against mitt romney. >> right. professor reich, paul ryan is known for being an encyclopedia of numbers but can he effectively counter headlines like this one today, "gm to add 2,000 jobs in michigan"? if this race comes down to ohio and the auto rescue plays a major role there, that's a tough headline to counter for mr. ryan, isn't it? >> it certainly is. and what people in ohio and in the midwest generally know is the auto bailouts were critically important. ryan and romney said no to the auto bailouts and the president and the vice president said yes in the face of a lot of criticism and they have been proven right. paul ryan is an ideologue. he has a record and joe biden can pick on that record. joe biden can say to paul ryan, that $716 billion that you and romney keep on saying we are robbing from medicare, we are not robbing from medicare. we're actually extending the life of medicare. you, ryan, you use that 7$716 billion in your budget plan and yet you put it in there based upon you actually turning medicar
either couldn't or wouldn't do last week against mitt romney. >> right. professor reich, paul ryan is known for being an encyclopedia of numbers but can he effectively counter headlines like this one today, "gm to add 2,000 jobs in michigan"? if this race comes down to ohio and the auto rescue plays a major role there, that's a tough headline to counter for mr. ryan, isn't it? >> it certainly is. and what people in ohio and in the midwest generally know is the auto...
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romney's stand-in for president obama is ohio senator rob portman. today i spent the morning with the man who was playing the part of vice president joe biden in paul ryan's practice sessions for the vice presidential debate next week. seriously. not kidding. seriously. want to know what happened? that's next. [ man ] ring ring... progresso this reduced sodium soup says it may help lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just have to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's easy [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. who have used androgel 1%, there's big news. presenting androgel 1.62%. both are used to treat men with low testosterone. androgel 1.62% is from the makers of the number one prescribed testosterone replacement therapy. it raises your testosterone levels, and... is concentrated, so you could use less gel. and with androgel 1.62%, you can save on your monthly prescription. [ male announcer ] dosing and appl
romney's stand-in for president obama is ohio senator rob portman. today i spent the morning with the man who was playing the part of vice president joe biden in paul ryan's practice sessions for the vice presidential debate next week. seriously. not kidding. seriously. want to know what happened? that's next. [ man ] ring ring... progresso this reduced sodium soup says it may help lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just have to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1. eat the...
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in lass week's debate and an opportunity to see going forward is the promise of this election for obama was that he could use this to create a public dialogue about the issue of taxing the wealthy. it has been 22 years now since a single republican member of congress has voted for a tax increase of any kind, an income tax increase. if you're going to have any kind of a long-term deal, a long-term dif set deal, which is what everybody -- not everybody, but a lot of people on both sides who say this is what they want. if you're going to, it will include a tax component on the wealthy. >> if obama campaigns on that and wins and if democrats hold the senate and make gains in the house, that could ratchet up pressure on republicans to make some kind of deal. otherwise, you have the other thing. it's a myth that nothing is going to happen in the lame duck, because if they take democrat off and congress doesn't show up, a lot will happen. december 31st, the expiration of the bush tax cuts. they go away if nothing happens. something ahas to happen. >> i find it extremely rich to hear john boehn
in lass week's debate and an opportunity to see going forward is the promise of this election for obama was that he could use this to create a public dialogue about the issue of taxing the wealthy. it has been 22 years now since a single republican member of congress has voted for a tax increase of any kind, an income tax increase. if you're going to have any kind of a long-term deal, a long-term dif set deal, which is what everybody -- not everybody, but a lot of people on both sides who say...
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romney's stand-in for president obama is ohio senator rob portman. today i spent the morning with the man who was playing the part of vice president joe biden in paul ryan's practice sessions for the vice presidential debate next week. seriously. not kidding. seriously. want to know what happened? that's next. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 let's talk about low-cost investing. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 at schwab, we're committed to offering you tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 low-cost investment options-- tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 like our exchange traded funds, or etfs tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 which now have the lowest tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 operating expenses tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 in their respective tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 lipper categories. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 lower than spdr tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 and even lower than vanguard. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 that means with schwab, tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 your portfolio has tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 a better chance to grow. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 and you can trade all our etfs online, tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 commission
romney's stand-in for president obama is ohio senator rob portman. today i spent the morning with the man who was playing the part of vice president joe biden in paul ryan's practice sessions for the vice presidential debate next week. seriously. not kidding. seriously. want to know what happened? that's next. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 let's talk about low-cost investing. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 at schwab, we're committed to offering you tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 low-cost investment options-- tdd#:...
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romney's stand-in for president obama is ohio senator rob portman. today i spent the morning with the man who was playing the part of vice president joe biden in paul ryan's practice sessions for the vice presidential debate next week. seriously. not kidding. seriously. want to know what happened? that's next. >>> the next debate is the vice presidential debate between vice president joe biden and congressman paul ryan. it is set for next thursday. vice president biden's debate practice sessions he's got democratic congressman chris van hollen of maryland playing the role of paul ryan for the purpose of practice. in mr. ryan's debate practices the role of vice president joe biden is being played by celebrated conservative attorney and former george w. bush solicitor general ted olson. ted olson is not your average former bush administration official. he is the former bush administration official who's been leading the legal effort to overturn california's ban on gay marriage and maybe every state's ban on gay marriage. he is very, very, very, very co
romney's stand-in for president obama is ohio senator rob portman. today i spent the morning with the man who was playing the part of vice president joe biden in paul ryan's practice sessions for the vice presidential debate next week. seriously. not kidding. seriously. want to know what happened? that's next. >>> the next debate is the vice presidential debate between vice president joe biden and congressman paul ryan. it is set for next thursday. vice president biden's debate...
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>>> the unemployment rate dropped below 8% for the first time in the obama presidency hitting 7.8% for september. but the raw job gains are tepid. will the below 8% news do much to change the economic perceptions of undecided voters in the final weeks before the election? meanwhile a shifted swagger as mitt romney waits to see if his numbers swing up after a decisive debate. he certainly has a spring in his step out on the campaign trail. on the whole 47% comment that never came up at the debate romney says he was wrong. as for the president, he put some mileage between himself and the mile high city with much more fiery talk than anything we heard from him at the actual debate. but is the president's tough talk too little too late? good morning from washington. it's friday, october 5th, 2012. this is "the daily rundown." i'm chuck todd. we'll have much more on the new jobs numbers in minutes with economist mark zandi, texas senator kay bailey hutchison is here, and an exclusive this morning senior adviser to the president david plouffe. but first right to my first reads of the morning
>>> the unemployment rate dropped below 8% for the first time in the obama presidency hitting 7.8% for september. but the raw job gains are tepid. will the below 8% news do much to change the economic perceptions of undecided voters in the final weeks before the election? meanwhile a shifted swagger as mitt romney waits to see if his numbers swing up after a decisive debate. he certainly has a spring in his step out on the campaign trail. on the whole 47% comment that never came up at...
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one point, or as it's also known, the thing obama failed to make during last week's debate. huh? speaking of the election, you guys, the vice presidential debate is just three days away. both sides are busy getting ready and republican candidate paul ryan says he expects joe biden to come at him like a cannon ball. biden was like, there's going to be a pool there? i'm more of a belly flop guy, but i can -- >>> and with us now from washington, pulitzer prize winning columnist, msnbc political analyst eugene robinson. i've got to ask you the big question, are you for the nats or for the orioles? >> i've got to be for the nats, although we're a mixed marriage. my wife was born in baltimore. >> oh. >> not an ill word can be said about the baltimore orioles in my house. >> yeah. >> nonetheless, i'm following the nats and cheering the nats. but, you know, the orioles are playing the yankees last night and beat them. you've got to root against the yankees, right? >> of course you do. if you love -- well, i mean, only if you love america. >> yes, right. >> i do love america. >> you do lo
one point, or as it's also known, the thing obama failed to make during last week's debate. huh? speaking of the election, you guys, the vice presidential debate is just three days away. both sides are busy getting ready and republican candidate paul ryan says he expects joe biden to come at him like a cannon ball. biden was like, there's going to be a pool there? i'm more of a belly flop guy, but i can -- >>> and with us now from washington, pulitzer prize winning columnist, msnbc...
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ambassador was killed more than two weeks ago on 9/11. we'll hear from a top obama adviser, david plouffe, in a moment. but first, joining me now, the republican governor of new jersey chris christie. welcome back to "meet the press." >> happy to be back, david. good morning. >> the key battleground states, nine of them, we've been polling in nine of them, and all nine it's obama advantage across the board. look at ohio, plus seven. virginia, plus five. these are key states. is the race over? >> absolutely not. and that happened pretty quickly, right, david? you saw the change in those polls happen very quickly. and i'm here to tell you it can happen very quickly back the other way, and i think the beginning of that is wednesday night when governor romney for the first time gets on the same stage with the president of the united states and people can make a direct comparison about them and their visions for the future. and wednesday night is the restart of this campaign and i think you'll see the numbers start to move right back in the ot
ambassador was killed more than two weeks ago on 9/11. we'll hear from a top obama adviser, david plouffe, in a moment. but first, joining me now, the republican governor of new jersey chris christie. welcome back to "meet the press." >> happy to be back, david. good morning. >> the key battleground states, nine of them, we've been polling in nine of them, and all nine it's obama advantage across the board. look at ohio, plus seven. virginia, plus five. these are key...
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to turn this around for romney in the final weeks. what we're seeing now i think is that may not be the case and the october surprise everyone always talks about is, in fact, that we're back where we were in the spring. it's a very close race. >> and in fact, to the point of both of the campaigns, they've been saying all along they thought in the end this was going to be a very tight race, but some of the numbers that really jump out for me, jackie, are enthusiasm and engagement. 67% of romney's supporters now back him strongly. 82% say they're giving a lot of thought to this election. this was a guy who going into his convention, and not the most successful convention, either, was still having trouble getting people really excited about his campaign. has he turned that around? >> you know, there's two things here. i mean, we talked about this all the way going up to the debate how important that debate was, and it was very important for mitt romney, and now we're seeing the benefits for him, that he had a really good debate. the othe
to turn this around for romney in the final weeks. what we're seeing now i think is that may not be the case and the october surprise everyone always talks about is, in fact, that we're back where we were in the spring. it's a very close race. >> and in fact, to the point of both of the campaigns, they've been saying all along they thought in the end this was going to be a very tight race, but some of the numbers that really jump out for me, jackie, are enthusiasm and engagement. 67% of...
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how many times did obama miss in the debate this week to pin romney down on the specific question of okay, you want to cut taxes across the board, you want to be deficit neutral and you have a broad promise to close loopholes and deductions. let's spell ought out what the deductions are. let's specify mitt romney which ones you say you'll go after and which ones you'll protect. biden is really -- i think you're right. ryan we see in this campaign, interviews he had something new. follow-up questions. >> when we come back, we're going to talk more about this. we know there's a problem of biden bromance. i want to know whether or not paul ryan is willing to go hard in for mitt romney. i'm going to gargle during the break. or get the yard ready for cool an energy weather?n to size? the answer? a lot less. the great american fix-up is going on now... ...with new projects every week and big savings every day. so you can do what needs to be done. today. more saving. more doing. that's the power of the home depot. right now, owens corning ecotouch attik insulation is only $11.87 a roll. and
how many times did obama miss in the debate this week to pin romney down on the specific question of okay, you want to cut taxes across the board, you want to be deficit neutral and you have a broad promise to close loopholes and deductions. let's spell ought out what the deductions are. let's specify mitt romney which ones you say you'll go after and which ones you'll protect. biden is really -- i think you're right. ryan we see in this campaign, interviews he had something new. follow-up...
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by the middle of next week, people will say barack obama can't walk down the sidewalk without stumbling. i'm stunned by -- i mean, the republicans are excited, but i'm stunned by how democrats seem to keep getting more depressed every day. i've had people that have never voted republican in their life. >> right. >> saying i may have to do it this year. >> i think there's been that. there's also been a little bit of a back-and-forth about the jobs numbers that have made the republicans look desperate. but yes, overall, i think the debate had a terrible impact for the president and one that i think is surprisingly lasting. >> yeah, why is that? >> well, because a lot of people were watching and because you're wondering why things don't work in washington. and when you see two people go head to head and you see it be so starkly clear stylistically, you kind of wonder if that is brought home. >> that the president's disconnect -- >> yeah. so there's a lot of work to be done in the next debate. i mean, a lot of work. he's going to have to get his hands dirty. >> i take it if we're hearing th
by the middle of next week, people will say barack obama can't walk down the sidewalk without stumbling. i'm stunned by -- i mean, the republicans are excited, but i'm stunned by how democrats seem to keep getting more depressed every day. i've had people that have never voted republican in their life. >> right. >> saying i may have to do it this year. >> i think there's been that. there's also been a little bit of a back-and-forth about the jobs numbers that have made the...
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policies of the obama administration, what the president of the company said. i think they've been specific on the types of things that they would do to be able to increase jobs, provide more access to the american dream, and tough decisions have to be made. i cut spending in virginia about $6 billion eliminating deficits. republican governors have done it all over the country. sure there was some complaining and hardship at the beginning but we're running surpluses and the job rates in red states are better than blue states and that's what mitt romney will do. >> he's been specific about his goals. he hasn't been specific about how to reach those goals. what about what paul ryan acknowledged on fox -- >> andrea, hold on. >> go ahead. >> i have to stop you on that. the president of the united states, has not got a budget passed in three and a half years. that's -- you know, governors balance budgets every year on time. this president has not got a budget passed either house, even though he's had a majority. the president has had no plan to reduce the debt. he's
policies of the obama administration, what the president of the company said. i think they've been specific on the types of things that they would do to be able to increase jobs, provide more access to the american dream, and tough decisions have to be made. i cut spending in virginia about $6 billion eliminating deficits. republican governors have done it all over the country. sure there was some complaining and hardship at the beginning but we're running surpluses and the job rates in red...
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we'll see how the polls go this week. and he is going, president obama, monday, to california for caesar chavez. he signed an executive order to say this is where chavez is buried. it is going to be part of our national park service. >> where -- >> yeah, it is la paz, and he will be there with the widow of caesar cheavez, the widow. and mitt romney screwed up, when he was a let hard on the mexican-american vote. you see president obama making a big play with ken salazar, the hispanic, and the whole clan. watch for the sound bite to be very moving. >> do you think -- >> paul ryan has -- is an intellect, and joe biden is a consummate pro. so i think you will see a really spirited one. so you will have joe biden throwing punches and paul ryan punching back. and in fact, if you're going to have a pop corn debate, one that doesn't bore you. first of all, while mitt romney was pretty good, it was boring, this one should be very fascinating. >> we'll have you back, thank you. >>> and ever since mitt romney talked about firing bi
we'll see how the polls go this week. and he is going, president obama, monday, to california for caesar chavez. he signed an executive order to say this is where chavez is buried. it is going to be part of our national park service. >> where -- >> yeah, it is la paz, and he will be there with the widow of caesar cheavez, the widow. and mitt romney screwed up, when he was a let hard on the mexican-american vote. you see president obama making a big play with ken salazar, the...
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. ♪ >>> for the past week, both mitt romney and president obama, have you noticed this? they've been trying to lower expectations for their debate performance by insisting that they're not great debaters. based on some of their past debates, tomorrow could look like this. >> the -- uh -- >> i -- i don't want to -- >> let me just make a couple of points. my -- here's -- >> i hope they either take off the ad or make it correct. >> look, let's just be clear. >> we hired a lawn company to mow our lawn. >> as i said before -- >> and with my wife, we've, uh -- >> we have -- >> but what -- um, let's see. um -- uh, we could start with his idea to have a lunar colony that would mine minerals from the moon. >> you said that, uh -- let me just make a closing point. that made no sense whatsoever. >> can you imagine if somebody did that to us? >> uh, uh, uh -- >> no. you know what? >> that was funny. >> look at that. welcome back to "morning joe." sam stein and mark mckinnon are still with us here in washington along with mike barnicle in new york. mike, are you awake? >> i am. i am.
. ♪ >>> for the past week, both mitt romney and president obama, have you noticed this? they've been trying to lower expectations for their debate performance by insisting that they're not great debaters. based on some of their past debates, tomorrow could look like this. >> the -- uh -- >> i -- i don't want to -- >> let me just make a couple of points. my -- here's -- >> i hope they either take off the ad or make it correct. >> look, let's just be...